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tips on riding an old skool twin....
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:44 am
by newtothis
hi all
i have been riding a modern (drift tri) KB for a few years and having a blast.
i just got a small traditional twin fin fish (5'10 x 21 1/2) does anyone have any riding tips?
ideas on how they turn and trim - just so i can get my head into it before getting it into the water...
thanks in advance
Re: tips on riding an old skool twin....
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:02 pm
by albert
newtothis wrote:hi all
ideas on how they turn and trim - just so i can get my head into it before getting it into the water...
thanks in advance
Turn?
they dont turn... they either slide out or they go straight
Trim?
they do trim, but very slowly...
Thats about it I think, unless you post pics of your new and old boards thats all I can safely say.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:28 pm
by newtothis
thanks Albert
doesnt sound to promising then ;0)
i suppose thats why boards have moved on a little..
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:01 pm
by albert
newtothis wrote:thanks Albert
doesnt sound to promising then ;0)
i suppose thats why boards have moved on a little..
...put it to you this way... riding old boards isnt going to make you surf better, but you will learn from it...
disagree
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:10 pm
by kneemor
I have few twins and do full cutbacks on them standing up.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:43 pm
by KenM
Hey Newy, ride it high in the pocket, weight back on the corner when you turn, more rail to rail than turning the board flat,draw out your lines and go fast. You'll have fun.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:59 pm
by skansand
seems too long for a traditional fish as a viable kb.... like get this, ....i ride a 6'1 aussie tri.....and a 5'3 v-bottom keel fish....
both do similar turns in overhead waves.....actually id go 5'5 on the fish .as 5'3 is pretty small for my 6'6 ,230 ib build.
...i rode a 6'2 fish..couldnt turn it....then a 5'8 fish...could turn it at warp speed but not flat turns...
you have to change your stance for each design.... upright , sometimes lean back for a late drop...and turn off the tail for traditional fish...
hunched over and leaning forward for late drops and surfing off the rail for longer, fin- forward modern boards.... hope this helps...
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:16 pm
by Headwax.
I've been watching standups for a few years riding retro boards and most of them I feel sorry for cause they can't ride them for s*&^ - cause they ride them like tris - off the tail.
The most succesful standups lean forward and lock the rail in. They use the rail the fins and the point of the fish tail as the driving area. The fishtail pin seems to act like the back fin of a quad if the board is made right and the rider uses his rail.
For kneelos? Depends where the fins are. Traditional old style fish seem to have them way back which means you gotta grab the rail to turn and adopt an undynamic style.
Keel fins? You ever see Nat riding his pintail keel fin? Was he riding it in Crystal Voyager? gee it went good in straight lines.... Of course it wasn't a twinnie
Good luck

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:32 pm
by KenM
Wax, yea, there is some nice footage in Crystal Voyager of Nat Young surfing Rincon on that pintail keel. A couple of standout standups on twin keel fishes on your side of the big blue are Dave Rastovich and Daniel Thompson. Just cuz lots of guys suck on 'em doesn't mean they're not fun for others.
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Sometimes I have an "undynamic" style. Sometimes I have no style at all.

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:11 pm
by Headwax.
Hah

You don't have any style? I take a yellow baoth towel down the beach and have a bright orange shoulder bag...
You forgot to ask how come I have all this leasure time watching other guys catch waves. It's cause I paddle so damn slow

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:24 pm
by newtothis
thanks Guys for all of the advice..
its is a new feeling ride / experience that im am after - and something that i want to learn from,
so i am not expecting to either get the same as from a modern board, or nail it straight away
however your pointers will certainly help
the board has fins set back, its a wide swallow with a deep crack (no puns) and look like an old dare i say "lis" type shape
but its new expoxy / vacum bagged construction.
i expect it was made for standup, but i thought it might be a blast to KB it and see where it takes me....
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:24 pm
by MALLEE BULL
GET IT IN THE WATER AND HAVE SOME FUN
NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR IT SELF

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:38 pm
by crox
Hi NTT......come along to the British Nationals on Saturday 11th Oct.....meet up with some other kneeboarders......I'm sure you will get some good feedback there.
Check the website & post on the forum
http://www.kneelo.org/
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:31 am
by RMcKnee
Headwax. wrote:Hah

You don't have any style? I take a yellow baoth towel down the beach and have a bright orange shoulder bag...
Wax, you ain't gonna go all Drouyn on us are ya?
Say it ain't so!

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:21 pm
by RMcKnee
Absolutely spot freakin' on Cappy.